Macedonian nationalism. No Balkan nationalists allowed! Please read before commenting.

Let's understand each other, shall we?

I haven’t written in a while.  I decided to come back and see how this blog is doing.  WordPress has changed some of the software.. the inner workings look different.  Any way, I found this comment on one of my blog posts.  I let it show up because I want people to see an example of someone who did not read my post and posted utter and complete nonsense.  Let me remind you that the idea of that blog post, Macedonia’s name and the issue of cultural heritage, was to claim that really, on the Balkans, we should all get along, because we really are very very similar and can all claim to have been influenced by the great civilizations that have thrived on our small bit of the world.

I’m perfectly willing to listen, if you’re willing to listen to me.

Anyway, I’ve always wanted to tear apart nationalistic crap on my blog, so I’ll give it a go.

Go check igenea or other institutes for genetics
Macedonian DNA exist and its different than the “greek” one or bulgarian…

Since when is DNA a prerequisite to belonging to a certain nation or cultural entity?  Okay I give, my DNA stops me from calling myself Chinese or Korean, sure. (Really though, I’m sure if I wanted to learn their culture and be one of them, they would welcome me with open arms.)  But the differences in DNA of Balkan peoples are extremely small. Insignificant.  We’re all human beings anyway.

Stop calling us bulgars,slavs… fashist politics

Did I call Macedoneans Bulgarians?  No! Good job reading my blog post!

do you know my friend why the language we speak its called ‘’slavic” or macedonian???
learn some history before you post non-sense.
Have you heard about St. Kiril and Metodij???
that wikipedia stupid greek fashist propaganda can show to somebody else

Several inconsistencies here.  First, if you claim you are different from Slavs (see previous quote bit), then why are you defending your language as being slavic?  And why are you defending Macedonian (the idea) as being Slavic?

Post from iGENEA to 02.10.2008

Oh good! He’s bringing in an intellectual buddy to refute my blog post, which he didn’t read! Note: After reading through the next part, I realized that it had been ‘translated’ from German.  I wonder if the percentages were also translated as liberally as the words were?

A antic (from renovatio:  what does this mean??) macedonian genetic profile exists and has been discovered through the comparison of archaeological funds and persons with macedonian roots. These studies enable us to determine the macedonian roots of a person. We have 30% of macedonians in Macedonia, 20% in Greece an minorities in Bulgaria and Albania.

So 20% of Greeks do, or rather, 20% of Greek genetic ancestry is, have Macedonian descent?  You’re shooting a hole in your claim that you are the only descendants of Alexander.  Also, these presentations of archaeological DNA don’t impress me much.  How do you know that the person in what is supposed to be a Macedonian’s grave wasn’t an adopted Thracian or Greek?

It is very important to differ between politics and genetics, we are a genetic institute and we don’t have politic aims.

Presenting your evidence as nonpartial when it really is provides a clue as to how verifiable the evidence is. Note: I still don’t think genetic percentages are ‘evidence’ of any sort.  It’s grasping at straws to show how different you are from others.

Albania:
30% Illyrians
15% Phoenician
14% Hellenen
18%Thraker
2% Vikings
20% slavs

Albanians are more slavic than Bulgarians.  They also have no Macedonian genetic influence.  Huh??

Greece:
10% Germanic
10%illyrians
20% slavs
20% phoenician
5% macedonian (in north more than 18%)
35% Hellenen

Let’s just say that this is ridiculous.  First off, Greeks are more slavic than Bulgarians.  Secondly, it doesn’t even correspond to the presented Macedonian descent of Greeks given in the first article!

Bulgaria:
49%Thraker
11%macedonian
15%slavs
15%hellenen
5% pheonician

Great!  Who cares in today’s world?

Macedonia:
30%macedonian
10% illyrian
15% hellenen
5%phoenician
20% germanic
5% hunnen
15% slavs

20% Germanic??? Did Germans colonize Macedonia while I wasn’t looking??  Also, according to this, Macedonians are more hunnic than Bulgarians! Why are you calling Bulgarians Tatars??  And why do all of Macedonia’s neighbors except for Serbia have Thracian ancestry, but Macedonia doesn’t?

Bosnia
50% Illyrer
4% Thraker
20% Germanen
6% Hunnen
15% Slawen
15% Kelten

I’m getting tired of this.  German (non)-translation obvious here.  Bosnians are more Albanian than Albanians are?

Serbien:
30% Slawen
9% Phönizier
21% Illyrer
14% Kelten
8% Hellenen
2% wikinger
18% Germanen

I’m tired.  This genetic ancestry crap doesn’t even matter in today’s world.  It only matters where people are more concerned with history than with real life dynamics.

your opinion is a result of the fashist politic of greecce, stop calling us slavs cause the greece is more slavic country than MACEDONIA!

Whew, I got to the end of it.  What I was doing was claiming that the Balkans are cultarally similar.  We all have the tendency to bite each other where it most hurts and to plant our little flag and shout how great we are.  Except that most of us don’t.  Only the vocal ones are heard though.  Most of us, myself included, just want this nonsense nationalism to end, and to move on to a brighter future where we all help each other achieve and prosper.

Long live the men of goodwill who can get past nationalism, pride and past glories!

Let's work together!

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